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    So I got my learners . . . .

    This is my new rig.

    However I am only just starting out with the goal of participating in online racing.

    So my fellow AEF'ers what would be the top three key to success when staring out. Please keep in mind I am only a nub so things like telemetry must come later.

    I look forward to chatting to you all soon.
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    Oh no, Angry's on the road, get off the footpath!

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    This guy "Empty Box" has some good info in his "Sim Racing 101" series of clips >> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...ewjmIoaLtj-Bry



    Oh.. and here's a some sort of etiquette thing for Online Racing... if it helps.


    But give myself or any of the guy's a yell via forum/PM anytime, to T'up some privately hosted "muck around" online Q&A test sessions via TS.. for the best way to instantly learn the simulators ropes (functions etc).
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    Slow in, fast out.

    For clarity, this isn't how you get in and out of your cockpit (nice setup, btw)... but a reference to cornering. When you learn to understand the racing line, it's a rule that will improve your lap times out of sight. Remember it well !

    You should probably learn the etiquette first though, as Skid suggests..

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    Sweet Rig Angry!

    ... and welcome to the AEFRT!

    If you are a reader consider:
    Going Nowhere in Assetto Corsa
    http://womanbook.download/gets/G/Goi...2015-10-25.pdf
    ebook less than $10.

    Plenty of resources on the net re car racing - lines, braking, etc.

    The only real way to get better is to cut some laps!

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    My steam name is Davos and my avatar is a white stag. Send me a friend request and if you ever see me in assetto corsa flick me a message. Ive only been driving a few months so wont be far ahead of where you are. Id just jump straight in the deepend and get some racing experience.

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    Thanks for the feedback. I couldnt figure out why I was locking on up shift, only to discover I had the handbrake mapped to the paddle !!


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    Ok gents, quick question.

    The way I have my setup ATM the view of just the bonnet seems to fit best, however in comps is behind wheel view forced?


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    Hasent been forced yet . Not sure what the plan is for the season. I use the clear view.

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    Hi Angry,
    When I started AC I used bonnet view, and believe this is the fastest "view", at least initially. Obviously your vision is unimpeded and it should be easier to know where your front wheels are in relation to the track.
    However, I have long since moved to "driver" view. Clearly the most "realistic", you get to use the instruments and you will not get bad habits from other views. So I would encourage you to eventually move to "driver" view.

    Perhaps try this as an experiment:

    . If your practice car has Brake Bias start with it 3 points to the rear of default.
    . Don't be concerned about times, build a smooth line.

    1. Use bonnet view to learn the track layout.
    2. Switch to driver view and identify a braking mark for each turn, start conservatively.
    3. if you are not hitting the apex of the turns you are braking too late or not hard enough - listen for the brakes "chirping" (on the verge of lockup) - the sound level can be adjusted in options.
    4. Adjust the Brake Bias and note the difference to behaviour.
    5. Use the Line tool.
    6. Watch yourself in replay mode - you will be surprised how far you are from the apex!
    7. Have a SP race with the AI set to 100%.

    When you can keep up with the last placed AI car you are more than ready for online racing!
    It is harder than it sounds! Tried this last night and it was a lot of fun.

    8. Many seconds can be found in the garage.

    This week is Mugello, so practice at this track with the Abarth Assetto Corse - it is more fun than what you might think!

    Good Luck!

    PS: I'm hoping that one day we will be able to force driver view from the server side - sort out the men from the boys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davos View Post
    My steam name is Davos and my avatar is a white stag. Send me a friend request and if you ever see me in assetto corsa flick me a message. Ive only been driving a few months so wont be far ahead of where you are. Id just jump straight in the deepend and get some racing experience.
    I wouldn't mind some casual racing, just setup Assetto Corsa, nothing to serious.

    Can't find your name real easy in Steam to add to friends list, 1900 options.


    So here is my Steam ID (MadDog-IC) if you want to add to friends and have a race some time.

    http://steamcommunity.com/search/users/#filter=users&text=maddog-ic


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    I think im friends with you already maddog. Im hoping on tonight if you or anyone else is keen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrybstard View Post
    Ok gents, quick question.

    The way I have my setup ATM the view of just the bonnet seems to fit best, however in comps is behind wheel view forced?
    In short NO, it is not and will not be enforced in any AEF comps. and highly unlikely ever will be.

    Maybe once VR improves and settles in giving more peripheral vision, only then might we be able to come even close to simulating a drivers true perspective/FOV that may be lacking in our everyday setups now.
    ATM with sim racing (and others) you can only do the best with what is affordable and available until then.

    When viewing on monitors using the ingame selection of view modes....
    Cockpit view definitely gives the most immersion but, setting up the best perspective - Field Of View possible that suits your set up is very important and should help eliviate any concerns of advantages one might perceive a certain view has over the other.
    A lot of people have not taken the time to adjust their perspective/FOV properly, or are unable, hence it is rarely enforced.
    Hell, some peoples monitor/s setup of size and distance from your eyes when adjusted to a more realistic POV, probably wouldn't be able to see anything else on it but the track (no wheel, no dash, no bonnet), sorta like tunnel vision, compared to using a close up hugenormas screen that gives more peripheral viewing.



    So really it's down to what works best for you and your set up.

    Sim racing needs all the competitors it can get and should never discourage drivers from joining in even if they prefer "parachute" view... All should be welcome to join in and race, as they usually all figure out the best (or easiest) view that gives them their best times..

    .......... ......... ...........

    There is a few tutorials on setting up your correct FOV to suit your monitor/setup that takes into accordance the size and distance it's away from your head, etc. (via google.)

    Here's a useful calculator that works a treat for me > http://www.projectimmersion.com/fov/

    Also... when you've setup your monitor for the best view/perspective that suits you, but it lacks that all important "peripheral vision" (which most do) when close racing, don't forget to map the quick L/R glance buttons,.. or use TIR,... or use a great little radar app> ("HeliCorsa") which I find very useful, as it's invisible and only show's up when a car is close by.
    This works soo much better than those little red arrows spinning around the edge of screen by visually warning you when a car is in your space.. as it shows the distance/clearance you have when it's tucked into your blindspot (lack or peripheral vision). EG: Great for when they're up the inside of you when your about to turn into your corners apex.
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    found ya, sendin request

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    Nice rig. C ya on track

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    Cheers for all the replies.

    So I have just been running laps around Mugello in the Abarth Assetto and Escort. I am faster in the Assetto but I am enjoying the Escort more as it does not have ABS and is forcing me to work on my braking.

    In the Abarth Assetto at Muggello my fastest ATM is 2:22.7
    In the Escort is 2:24.5 ( from memory )

    I have taken the advice of watching some of my practice laps and can begin to see where I can gain more time. Braking distance and line for starters.

    As i do not normally drive a manual I have also been running some drag races to clean up my starts and shifting, as I get more comfortable I will begin adjusting the grip and conditions.

    Thats my plan for the next week, prac 2 hrs a day at Muggello and drags, well with a little open wheel shens mixed in


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    2.22 isnt a bad time at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davos View Post
    2.22 isnt a bad time at all
    Cheers, though I have been running the Escort mainly ( no ABS ) doing batches of 10 lap runs. It seems I am starting to get the Ford around at an average of 2:25.5.

    Still cant break my best of 2:24.59 set 2 days ago. Im spewing I didnt save the video but will try and remember next time im sub 2.25. I would love to post it and get some views on line, braking , tire wear ect ect.

    If you havent added me yet my steam is : angrybstard


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    Try the other cars and see which one suits YOUR STYLE. For me it was the audi as I was straight away below 2.20 I tried the others but struggle to get 2.25 after 5 laps. For me the audi is predictable and easy to punch out of the corners, but for someone else maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurbs View Post
    Try the other cars and see which one suits YOUR STYLE. .
    Thats the rub isnt it !

    I dont have a style yet, so ill grind the Escort until im sick of it and then move on. That said Ill give the Audi a go sometime tomorrow.


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    I'm going escort mainly because its fun to drive. I probably coild get faster times in the audo but enjoying the ford to much. The fastest ive got so far is a 2.23.

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    Yeah I'd like to do that but it starts with an F and ends with ord. Wish there was a torana

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    A '72 XJ GTR XU1! I had a cooking model GTR. Had a lot of fun with it but blew the motor etc. Always spending money on that heap of junk! But I loved it at the time.

    I'm going to be granny this Saturday and drive the Abarth AC - only driven to church on Sunday's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix_Culpa View Post
    A '72 XJ GTR XU1! I had a cooking model GTR. Had a lot of fun with it but blew the motor etc. Always spending money on that heap of junk! But I loved it at the time.

    I'm going to be granny this Saturday and drive the Abarth AC - only driven to church on Sunday's!
    One careful lady owner

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    Awesome. Love it. My first was an EJ. Then I tasted turbo mitsubishi sigma, next was nissan 180sx, then 350Z roadster then nissan r34 GET then had kids. Nissan maxima and now holden colorado and a motorbike

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    It's so much fun. I miss racing. Have nr03 but racing on a keyboard

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